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Stonewall/Julie Bindel demo [Nov. 4th, 2008|11:42 pm]
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[tajasel]
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For those not in the know, there is a protest this Thursday evening outside the V & A which I would encourage you to attend if possible.

What's it about, I hear you ask? Well.

Julie Bindel, somewhat-known Guardian journalist of some fame/infamy has (historically and recently) said some quite rude and unpleasant things about trans people, including but not limited to this and this and this. She was nominated for a Stonewall award, albeit not by Stonewall directly. Several people had conversations with Ben Summerskill, wherein it was pointed out that for the UK's supposedly premier LGBT organisation to be honouring people who were repeatedly and unapologetically denying the reality and validity of the T was, well, not really cricket. The nomination was not withdrawn, of course.

So a few unimpressed people set up a protest outside the awards ceremony and a petition, via Facebook. So far, so ordinary.

Then, Julie Bindel not only remained quite unrepentant, but started trolling the Facebook group, being dramatically butthurt, wrote an absolutely solipsistic statement in which she claimed that the criticism she was receiving was lesbophobic (because there are No Trans Lesbians, capiche?), and was generally madder than a box of frogs, including suggesting that anybody who hadn't complained about the Daily Mail previously being nominated had no right to complain about her now (or something).

But seriously; ignore the surrounding hilarity for a moment. The protest against Stonewall's persistence over nominating Julie Bindel for an award is not just about a little meeja tiff, but about the responsibility of LGBT organisations to represent the people they claim, and are getting money, to represent, and not keep shafting them. Cisgendered bisexuals may recognise this problem and sigh. Personally, I think there are enough other problems with Bindel's work (like her blinkered stance on prostitution) that she shouldn't be getting any kind of journalistic award whatsoever; she is an embarrassment to feminists and lesbians generally, and I cringe to think that she might make even more people think supporting sex and gender equality equals bonkers conspiracy theories.

So; please come to the protest if you're able. You don't have to be trans, or LGBT at all, to show support. Thinking journalists should do some bloody research is quite enough!

Details below, for those who can't do links. Bring friends. There may well be pub afterwards.

Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008
Time: 6:30pm - 8:30pm
Location: Outside the Victoria & Albert Museum (Cromwell Road, London, SW7 2RL - nearest Tube South Kensington)
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[User Picture]From: loki_fledermaus
2008-11-05 12:17 am (UTC)
I wish I could make it, but I'm not free, damn it!

I seriously had no idea about this. I've never been too much of a fan of Julie Bindel, I usually just skim over her articles in The Guardian, but this is outrageous.
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[User Picture]From: 0remedymalahide
2008-11-05 05:46 am (UTC)
oooooooh I think I might have to come to this. I'm not trans but I hate ignorance in people who are bigoted idiots
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[User Picture]From: a_pawson
2008-11-05 08:27 am (UTC)
Transphobia! Wasn't that a Kraftwerk album back in the 70's.
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From: optimus_stoo
2008-11-05 09:28 am (UTC)
I thought it was the fear of your car turning into a giant robot.
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[User Picture]From: charlycrash
2008-11-05 09:59 am (UTC)
Def Leppard, I think.
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[User Picture]From: charlycrash
2008-11-05 09:58 am (UTC)
Julie Bindel is a complete dick.

Sadly, I know more than a few feminists who would defend her. Which isn't to say there's anything wrong with feminism itself as an ideology, but I have noticed a worrying tendency to try and defend the indefensible amongst the feminist ranks provided the proponent of such falls into some demographic group traditionally favoured by feminists - but then I suppose you could say the same of most movements.

Edited at 2008-11-05 10:00 am (UTC)
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[User Picture]From: radiantsoul
2008-11-05 11:14 am (UTC)
Sadly, I know more than a few feminists who would defend her. Which isn't to say there's anything wrong with feminism itself as an ideology, but I have noticed a worrying tendency to try and defend the indefensible amongst the feminist ranks provided the proponent of such falls into some demographic group traditionally favoured by feminists - but then I suppose you could say the same of most movements.

Women, eh?
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[User Picture]From: charlycrash
2008-11-05 11:16 am (UTC)
Bitches who won't put out, the lot of them.

(when I say "amongst the feminist ranks", I mean limited numbers of crazier feminists. I certainly don't mean most let alone all of them)
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[User Picture]From: tajasel
2008-11-05 11:38 am (UTC)
I certainly don't mean most let alone all of them

I wish more took that opinion.

(Although, it's fun to destroy the opinion some people have that all feminists are celibate man-haters; one recent conversation went:

"Why are you doing this? Are you a lesbian or summat?"
"No, I'm bisexual."
"Oh. Um. I thought feminists were just women what hated men."
"Not me. I like men. I have two boyfriends, actually."

(That figure has since gone up to three; I look forward to the next conversation like that.)
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[User Picture]From: charlycrash
2008-11-05 11:45 am (UTC)
Thing is, like in any movement, the most obnoxious feminists are small in number but are far and away the loudest, therefore giving the impression that they're all crazy.

It's kind of amusing with crazy feminists sometimes - you'll say "most feminists are awesome, but I'm sorry, some are fucking insane", and then in response a crazy feminist will rip your face off and spit in the wound and tell you you're obviously a misogynist and a rapist in waiting, just to totally refute your idea that some feminists are mental.

I wish a few more intelligent, rational and generally awesome prominent feminists (of whom there's no shortage) would stand up and say "shut the FUCK up, you stupid transphobic, murder-forgiving insane cow".

But maybe they have. I haven't really been paying much attention, tbh. Sadly, morons like Julie Bindel who have the net effect of tarring all feminists with the crazy brush get more column inches.
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[User Picture]From: radiantsoul
2008-11-06 09:47 am (UTC)
Is this an all at the same time deal or a sort of tag team event?
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[User Picture]From: iddewes
2008-11-05 10:02 am (UTC)
I'll try to go. I have two really close trans friends so it does mean something to me. I hadn't heard she'd been nominated for an award but had heard about what she'd said. Can't believe anyone would nominate her for anything...:(
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